will happen tomorrow in kabul. what he leaves behind is certainly a very tenuous situation in that country. petraeus both in iraq and afghanistan really was the godfather of this face of modern warfare that we call counter insurgency. rebuilding a country politically, economically, militarily it costs billions of dollars and can take decades. the u.s. will be out of both iraq and afghanistan but nothing to say that those countries won't remain very troubled in terms of their security, fred. >> all right. so talk about the security issues and how things are so tenuous there. especially with this hand-over. >> well, you know, the next several months really will be telling, won't they? because now you're sort of in this mandated end game, if you will. u.s. combat forces, all combat forces, in fact, foreign troops are scheduled to be out of afghanistan by the ends of 2014. we saw the first of the u.s.